09:05:10 Alright, we might as well start, so welcome everybody to this staircase 21 program on layering I'm Pat diamond and one of the four coordinators the others are Pascale Garaud, David Hughes, and Bruce Sutherland.
09:05:29 And we certainly, organizing this under these conditions is has been a study in in Deng Zhao Ping's old saying I cross the river by feeling for stones.
09:05:53 And so you'll have to bear with us. Under the circumstances.
09:05:58 And certainly a lot of thanks to KITP and Lars and mark for help along the way.
09:06:07 So, we have a program of the program is a work in progress we're still crossing the river.
09:06:16 So we have, you know, a program of four days of overview talks in four different areas where layering appears, this, this program brings together people from a bunch of different areas.
09:06:34 Fluid Dynamics broadly interpreted but also plasma physics and certainly very different ends of fluids.
09:06:42 And after that, there's two and a half weeks of topical talks, which are mixed intentionally. So rather than having, you know, upper ocean day in plasma day they're mixed up.
09:06:55 And then it's very much TBD.
09:07:00 In particular, possibility of discussions Working Group short contributions and so forth.
09:07:07 So, and that's of course, in any in any program like this that's when the real business gets done actual research work and forming collaborations here that somewhat hampered by Time Zone differences.
09:07:23 So that requires a lot of self organization. And one of the things we want to do today is to get your ideas on the self organization.
09:07:36 And we hope everyone you know, it has an enjoyable time here on as enjoyable as possible under the circumstances and finds it profitable and gets things done.
09:07:51 So the main thing for today is a meet and greet.
09:07:56 And there's a business and to the meet and greet, and we'd like everyone to identify themselves and their institution, give a very short description of their research interests, this is not the place to read us your CV.
09:08:14 And then, like, tell us what you want to get out of the program.
09:08:20 And give any suggestions or requests, and particularly on the ladder to not only speak them but also type them in the chat box because that will give us the organizers a record of what is going on.
09:08:40 And that that would be very helpful and taking further steps in organizing the program.
09:08:46 So, any any questions or issues up to here.
09:08:55 All right, then we'll all start with this procedure, and then we'll just go around the room.
09:09:03 Maybe we start maybe as
09:09:17 well, any of the other coordinators want to say anything.
09:09:18 That's unusual. Alright, so well as we already.
09:09:22 As you already know, I'm Pat diamond, I'm from UC San Diego and various other places
09:09:31 to from time to time, research interests, mainly in turbulence in magnetically confined plasmas and aspects of confinement like zonal flows and other goodies like that but I also work in astrophysical and geophysical fluids and Dynamo theories and other
09:09:53 such things from time to time.
09:09:57 In terms of what I want to get out of the program, I'd like to get a better feel for the approaches to calculating and even predicting layered structure.
09:10:14 And my main suggestion would be working groups in different things and I would take care of some sort of plasma area working group that would not just be for plasma people but also draw on the other expertise here.
09:10:32 So, Pascal.
09:10:37 Hi everybody, so I'm Pascal know I work at UC Santa Cruz and so my main research is on astrophysical food dynamics and some elements of geophysical fruit and remix in particular the moment particularly flows with Eckart who is also here.
09:10:55 My main goal in coming here, I think, is to try and understand better interface show interfaces and the properties of interfaces and liquid flows, primarily self sharpening properties structure transport three interfaces, as a transport barrier versus
09:11:14 promoting transport and how the how they're structured impacts the entire staircase structure wouldn't exist so I would advocate for a interface properties subgroup which could actually spend a lot of different sub disciplines here.
09:11:37 Shall I mean the next person.
09:11:39 Go ahead. Okay, David then
09:11:45 right Hi everyone, I'm David Hughes, I'm at the University of Leeds.
09:11:52 My research is mainly astrophysical fluid dynamics.
09:11:57 Mainly MHD I guess with a lot of emphasis on Dynamo theory, but I'm also interested in connection and WW sip connection.
09:12:08 So what I'd like to see really what I most be interested in is exploring connections between the layering mechanisms that have been put forward in different systems such as you know this was put forward for Thursday like convention, compared with say
09:12:26 what's put forward for PV staircases. Is there anything overarching rather in the style of the paper that Neil, and Neil Young wrote a while ago, whether there is a synthesis between those.
09:12:42 I'd also be interested in exploring the layering astrophysical values away from numerical simulations which I know Pascal has been working on.
09:13:08 I've also been looking at the problem of magnetic layering, which is a sort of related to double diffuse of layering, and may, may be of interest. force transport in radiative interiors of stars.
09:13:13 Okay, So I'll, I'll pass on to Bruce.
09:13:18 Hi, I'm Bruce settling down from the University of Alberta, primarily work in stratified fluids and particles and fluids. And to be honest, not much my work is involved layering.
09:13:28 However, my main purpose here is I hope to learn and be inspired by some of the talks and interactions.
09:13:34 And so I'm looking forward to the rest of the meeting.
09:13:47 At this point, we're going to pass it on to the other participants. And what I'm going to do is I'm looking at the participant list so I'm just going to pick the first person on the top of the list who hasn't spoken yet Emerald coach Chris Jones.
09:13:51 I'll also remind people please put any ideas or thoughts you have details of what you'd like to see from the workshop into the chat box. Thanks. Go ahead, Chris.
09:14:01 Is it possible for us to be sent a list for everybody to have a list of the people involved.
09:14:12 Is it possible Yes. Do we have it on us right now. No, no, it doesn't have to be right now but at some stage that we could all know who's involved. I think that's important doctoral people will you will want people to interact in subgroups.
09:14:26 And people need to know who they are and how to contact each other. Go ahead, Chris.
09:14:31 Okay, so I'm Chris Jones I'm interested in the interior of Jupiter and of course the zonal flows in that planet show evidence of potential voters city staircases.
09:14:44 So, naturally, that's something that's Of particular interest to me, so I'm there, because it's the deeper interior I'm quite interested in how potential voters the staircases can form in conducting situations, as well as when it's false turbulence.
09:15:02 The other interests that I have been sort of stair casing area is in a nonlinear development of the Gold Rush shoe but freaky instability, which is an instability which can occur in the interior of stars.
09:15:16 And this, again, is rather like double diffuse if compaction. And apparently staircases can form. There were in Angular and some distribution associated with that so that's the reason I'm particularly those the reasons I'm particularly interested in stack
09:15:35 ASAP.
09:15:37 Okay.
09:15:39 Move to the next guy now.
09:15:54 swings, both his name the next guy.
09:16:00 Chris just pick somebody's name name somebody.
09:16:02 Oh, okay. Um, so what about how about that. Come on.
09:16:09 Oh gee. Well, I'm hurt but up but this has been said. I have been at the University of Cambridge for over 50 years, significant fraction of my life.
09:16:22 In the early days I worked a lot on government a few Civ convection. I'm now interested flows in layered porous media, where you lay down the layering and so it's slightly different.
09:16:37 And what I have been mind with this meeting is just to hear what people are doing.
09:16:45 Get up to date, and possibly even possible collaborate with a few people and do something together by zoom.
09:16:56 I'm writing enough papers by zoom at the moment, but another one or two with you interesting guys I'm sure would be very exciting.
09:17:05 And I have to name somebody else.
09:17:08 So the next guy on, on my screen is VOCA Nolan.
09:17:16 Yeah Hello everyone, my name is Luke know lean on from in between the two you can technically risk and euro fusion coming from magnetically confined plasmas.
09:17:31 I'm interested in aspects of self organization and that brings us and also to the layer of structures in appearing in plasmas.
09:17:51 And this specifically in conditions for for the appearance specials and the resilience of the structures against perturbations and their breakdown and Nepalese is directly connected to transport of potential with the city and.
09:18:00 Now, General transport.
09:18:02 And I hope that you find some new interesting synergies between plasma physics, whatever is done in planets astrophysical plus Mars and fluid dynamics.
09:18:17 Thanks Bernie the next person.
09:18:23 Just let me break in before.
09:18:25 If any of you, I mean we had one of the chief obstacles to many things in this program is Tiny Homes.
09:18:34 If any if some of you are probably wanting to go to bed, and you will be, you will be stuck in later things where you know you probably want to listen to, but there's no reason to hang around for the duration of this.
09:18:51 So any of our colleagues from Asia, who, for whom this is sort of a pain, please feel free to introduce themselves now and just go ahead Speak up, and then you can call it a night if you wish.
09:19:10 Mass
09:19:13 here. Alright, so first.
09:19:19 Dr. Kumar. Okay, Go ahead. Okay.
09:19:23 So, one minute.
09:19:25 I can't get there we go. Okay. Hello, you can see me now.
09:19:29 I'm wrong. Hello, can you hear me. Yes. Can you hear me. Yes. Alright, so I am funded, I am at the Department of physics engine Institute of Science. We work on a variety of problems and turbulence.
09:19:46 Only homogeneous and I nicer tropic but over the past five or six years we've been looking at the content of your stokes equations for multi-phase flows to phase three phase and learning occurs naturally there.
09:20:04 We will be happy to discuss that with you. And to see how we can collaborate with all of you in different aspects of this to do a plasma physics so if there are problems there which we do not know about with the very happy to learn about them.
09:20:21 Thank you very much.
09:20:27 Hello.
09:20:29 Hello.
09:20:32 Hello. Hello. Go ahead.
09:20:36 Yeah. Hi, I'm Dr. Paul Kumar from India, since last one decade, I am working on Magnolia high power laser admin tasks and then magnetic fields and I go to.
09:20:50 I go to. I go to the that this event is also interesting the magnetic region. I think that Patrick. Patrick you are also interested in magnetic fusions saying, I'm also looking into like a radio frequency hitting plasmas and instability is in leisure
09:21:06 plasma is like as a stimulated Roman and Roman estimate, Roman escaping. And also under compact very son sources based on that leaves a high power laser plasma interactions.
09:21:20 Be and this is also useful for the like. to find the origin of
09:21:28 cosmic cosmic rays particles, what is the mechanism of high energy particles, Jason from the actual physical body.
09:21:37 And so thankful and invested, doing the work in the collaborative research by Kingdom magnetized plasma, etc.
09:21:45 Thank.
09:21:48 Hello.
09:21:49 Yeah, I hope you can hear me.
09:21:53 Hello everyone.
09:22:05 China.
09:22:07 My research work focuses on turbulence and transport in magnetic environment plasma.
09:22:11 Very happy to attend this exciting online meeting Lula from Quadro, University of Science and Technology.
09:22:16 From this meeting.
09:22:17 I hope to broaden my knowledge about the turbulence, and a self organized structure formation in various systems. It would be great if I can join one of the working groups, and to learn something and work together with some guys in the sense of more general
09:22:47 physics. Okay, so that's. Thank you,
09:22:55 anyone else who wants to call it a night early and the Middle East will be just making essential, where we invest for China and India. So I'm Gregory Falcon which I am in Israel with the Weizmann Institute of Science and general statistical physicist
09:23:09 and the turbulence irritation.
09:23:11 I try to learn this subject some 25 years ago but probably I was not ready on subject was not ready so I don't know it, but I want to learn from the perspective issue.
09:23:24 Interested is generally interaction between turbulence and mean flow and interaction between the worlds and structure and why is it fill in some trouble in systems, there are some life scale coherent object appears.
09:23:37 And in particularly, I actually try to learn is there any single mechanism for layering and I give them find it so I know that's important, so maybe I can maybe there are no single mechanism.
09:23:49 But I'm also interested in particularly if one can apply some tools from information theory to describe this type of, apparently, getting the structures figure instructions lovers entropy of the system.
09:24:02 And let's say under the same energy. So I would be interested to realize is that we can do some, some somebody can apply some kind of approach to it, to see where this information actually encoded, which flow versus entropy and how it is any general mechanism.
09:24:18 mechanism. But I'm here to learn so I, I'm a guest. So,
09:24:24 the next one.
09:24:29 Okay so Hi, I'm born just graduated got my PhD from you, and I'm going to be a post out working with Professor for college, which is toxic.
09:24:41 So my PhD work was more like in geophysics, like, I know my Louise talked a lot about public, they feel safe convection in the Arctic Ocean and layer cases.
09:24:52 But myself, my work was mostly nickel vortexes, and topography fact in the ocean. And also, something in the tropical atmospheres. So I'm here also, to learn.
09:25:07 And, yeah, then next.
09:25:20 Any other.
09:25:22 Hello, could I talk next. Yes, go ahead.
09:25:26 I'm curious, you said okay, am I knew the city in Japan.
09:25:29 I mainly interested in the mechanism of tone of law formation into two dimensional tablets and a rocket in fear, so on, I only have one layer normal normally don't think about layering.
09:25:42 But I hope I learned more about layering in this program.
09:25:47 Thank you.
09:26:00 Hello, can you hear me.
09:26:06 Yes,
09:26:10 go ahead.
09:26:11 Okay.
09:26:13 Hello, man. I'm also from Ohio University of Science and Technology. I mean the same school with Professor no one. Yeah, She just to introduce herself.
09:26:27 Actually, am her PhD student and post adopters so we work together for many years. And I also have experienced walked with Professor damage, and, and, and damage the formation and sustainment of the staircase in the drift of him and zona flow system.
09:26:51 So it's very initial Walker So, but it gives me an opportunity to here. To learn more general physics of us layering in Floyd, and talking about classmates.
09:27:07 So, as, as the other side. I'm also here to learn. So, and after this program, I have to have some opportunity to have some more international cooperating, and even visit.
09:27:23 Thank you.
09:27:43 Okay. We just pick someone Edgar, go ahead.
09:27:48 Um, thank you, Pat. So my name is Edgar, no block I'm from UC Berkeley physics department.
09:27:55 I'm a theorist interested in, in GFD, in general, particularly convection.
09:28:04 And in recent years I've been interested in developing reduce models that allow description of gf know Geophysical Fluid flows and astrophysical flows in extreme parameter regimes beyond those accessible by numeric.
09:28:22 I'm also interested in the formation of coherent structures in in turbulence in particular the small scale mechanisms, and how they interact and generate large scale flows.
09:28:47 And of course, layering is from my perspective, an example of a coherent structure that develops in a turbulent flow so I would like to, you know, you use this perspective, maybe to learn some more about layering under oceanographic conditions.
09:29:00 nominate your next person at go quicker.
09:29:06 I'm Adrian Fraser.
09:29:11 Sure. Hi everyone, my name is Adrian Fraser I'm a postdoc working with Pascal girl in UC Santa Cruz.
09:29:19 I am currently working on actually layering in double diffuse of conviction and HD.
09:29:28 In the context of astrophysical interiors so low panel number as PhD student I studied sheer flows and MHD so my interests are mushy turbulence driven by instabilities in sheer flows and double the Feasts of connection.
09:29:45 I unfortunately don't have any suggestions because it's my first time attending a workshop of this sort.
09:29:50 I'm kind of new to this whole large field of GAFD and AfD.
09:29:58 So I'm looking to learn a lot from all of you, so looking forward to it.
09:30:03 And next person.
09:30:06 I see Keaton burns once you go ahead.
09:30:10 I am Keaton burns I'm an instructor in Applied Math at MIT. I'm interested in layer formation in the ocean and I social interactions in particular, and the role of lateral boundaries and forming and maintaining layers, also probably interested in numerical
09:30:24 I'm also probably interested in numerical methods, and during the workshop I'm hoping to add dual grid and multi resolution techniques for simulating flows with large diffuse 70 ratios, to the Daedalus code.
09:30:34 And so I'd be really interested in seeing a working group on numeric.
09:30:39 I'll pick Ben Fabio.
09:30:45 Hi, good evening.
09:30:51 But I mean five years I'm the senior researcher in mass a France. I'm mostly interested in in rapidly rotating flows and interaction between the large scale current structure structure and small scale turbulence and scandal for off system.
09:31:02 And my goal for this meeting is mostly to learn as potential link with such shock between such drastic flows and and layer formation in stratified and wfh the system.
09:31:16 And I guess that's it, next one will be Steve Tobias.
09:31:24 Hello everyone, I'm Steve Tobias from the University of Leeds, I'm interested in. Ga fd particularly interaction of turbulence with stratification rotation, and some magnetic fields.
09:31:36 I'm really interested in common themes that occur in layering systems and the mathematical structure of layering so fundamental fluid dynamics really.
09:31:46 And, like, Edgar interested in, if you can get some reduced models for some of these systems.
09:31:53 Okay, thank you. I'll pick our Cal.
09:32:04 You see me.
09:32:06 Yes, I'm gonna kill the tuition for more school from special Research Institute of the Russian, you can remove sense. And I'm interested in, mostly astrophysical fluid dynamics waves in rotating forms and to billions in rotating force and zone of rules
09:32:24 into balance and.
09:32:24 Currently I work a little bit with data on about on could up those who, which has magnetized atmospheres. This way I'm very much interested in
09:32:39 waiting to nominate magnitude of the next book to learn.
09:32:45 What about this and to make some progress in this direction.
09:32:53 So, next.
09:32:56 You go get your ski.
09:32:59 Okay. Hi.
09:33:09 My area is Eric fields, temperature, particles Dynamo also walk.
09:33:15 Instead of certified tools total connection connections. into.
09:33:18 I'm eager to hear from Israel.
09:33:30 arises.
09:33:31 Yeah, the application toaster physic geophysics also recently I'm talking high energy physics, working, Carl magnetic effect and timeless.
09:33:44 Okay, thank you.
09:33:53 Well, let me interject we're not getting too many things in chat.
09:34:01 What you want to do, or what you'd like to see in this programs and you know practical suggestions, so please know as the thoughts of courage you write them down.
09:34:16 I'm going to nominate the next person I'd like to hear Laura.
09:34:28 Laura cope issues here.
09:34:36 I saw her a minute ago anyway.
09:34:40 She's on the participant list.
09:34:42 No, I saw her name and then he disappeared. How about john john Mason.
09:34:54 I'm doing this and I'm an applied mathematician from Exeter. I'm interested in fluid turbulence and generation of magnetic fields theory, and I hope to I haven't worked on staircases myself I hope to learn more about how large scale or low frequency dynamics
09:35:09 evolve in turbulence from the meeting
09:35:16 somebody else.
09:35:23 Know that double.
09:35:24 Hi. Hello. My name is Rob Tara.
09:35:34 On a senior research fellow at energy environments to University of hope. My background is I'm a bit of a jack of all trades experiments threat critical mass amounts.
09:35:43 I'm really interested in certain transport processes, and I'm attending tour to attending the workshop, and to learn more about how large scale mixing from Beethoven's interaction controls.
09:36:08 And next, but handled Herbert.
09:36:13 I've already spoken.
09:36:14 Ah, missed. and in that case.
09:36:23 Let's go for Phil Marcus.
09:36:31 Okay, I'm Phil Marcus, I'm at the University of California Berkeley.
09:36:37 Um, let's see, I've been interested in staircases for a while and I've accomplished publications from a while ago, on the staircase of potential vortices at in the Jovian atmosphere.
09:36:49 I'm very interested. Still in very interested in Jupiter and then rapidly rotating endorse stratified flows, and some interested in stair layering both the cause and effect in pairs, in protoplanetary discs and in the oceans.
09:37:08 So, some of the effects of layering, is it makes very stable environment sometimes for for disease and other coherent features, and I'm extremely interested in trying to synthesize.
09:37:21 Some of the ideas across these various fields of Oceans planetary atmospheres and protoplanetary discs, and I really look forward to talking to lots of people in these areas on a monstrous interested in numerical methods.
09:37:41 And so I'm hoping to get a lot out of this workshop, especially since it's the time of probate and it's a great way to interact with people.
09:37:51 and perhaps that's like Joe Branco go next.
09:37:58 Let's let Joe Branco go next. Hello everyone.
09:38:00 I'm Joe Bronco, the Chair of the Department of Physics and Astronomy at San Francisco State University.
09:38:09 25 year ish years ago I was Phil Marcus's PhD student, and my very first postdoc was 17 years ago at the KITP. I'm generally interested in astrophysical and Geophysical Fluid Dynamics.
09:38:30 The settling of dust and protoplanetary discs, to a the formation of planetesimals the building blocks of planets.
09:38:40 I'm also interested in the zombie for text instability, which is a non MHD mechanism that generates turbulence, and for disease and protoplanetary discs, and also leads to the creation of zonal flows and protoplanetary discs.
09:39:00 What I'm hoping to get out of the workshop is.
09:39:17 Well I've been working on astrophysical applications for 20 something years and I, I actually like to change, I'd like to make a career change into more climate physics applications of these topics, very interested in things like
09:39:28 ocean oceanographic applications especially related to interfaces with with ice.
09:39:35 So I'm completely novice in those fields and that's what I hope to connect with people to, to
09:39:44 make those new connections.
09:39:48 Let's see. Let me pass it off to.
09:39:58 How about wolf Christian Bueller Bueller.
09:40:04 Did I pronounce your name right.
09:40:06 Yes you do.
09:40:07 All right.
09:40:09 Good morning, program was to anybody.
09:40:14 I'm working at the technician he visited Berlin, Germany, and I've been trying ever since to do something more or less reasonable in turbulence regarding to structure formation energy dynamics in Magneto hydro dynamics in rotating fluids, and likewise
09:40:36 systems. But more recently, I've really realized I think I've realized that reduced all the modeling is a very interesting approach to understand something about complex systems that demands ever larger resources, if you want to investigate them numerically.
09:40:56 And therefore, we've started to try to build reduced all the models of turbulence, that leads by a level of abstraction, to a simplified description that allows you to identify saving processes ingredients in the dynamics of the system.
09:41:16 So in that context, of course I came into closer contact with. It's good to Chan, who was a colleague that I noticed since quite a while.
09:41:30 And because he's at the moment traveling, more or less, along similar lines as we do.
09:41:40 And this also connects me to the main topic of this workshop which is basically structure formation and complex systems.
09:41:51 And I hope that I can learn something from the approaches and the ideas of the other participants, about how to reduce the complexity of the system in a reasonable manner.
09:42:05 So, that actually, naturally, leads me to hand over to Edgar.
09:42:18 Hello.
09:42:18 And so I'm just gonna grow Jan, and you can you hear me.
09:42:26 So I'm gonna go john.
09:42:27 Can you hear me. Yes. Okay, thanks. So I I'm, I'm a theoretical plasma physicist actually by information, but I sort of got interested more and more in modeling turbulence, especially from the point of view of in Plasma Physics for example we have this
09:42:54 problem of layering let's say formation of zone of flows in staircases which naturally leads to some sort of dynamics which is similar to predator prey dynamics in, in ecological systems.
09:43:09 And this suggestive in spatially you can form sort of let this this rich have this kind of structured sort of predator prey dynamics of flaws and turbulence, which are interacting in different places in different times, etc sort of its require some sort
09:43:28 of synchronization.
09:43:33 And in order to self regulate the transport in a particular race. So in order to understand this complexity I sort of started drifting in a direction of simpler systems where I can try to understand this using things like two dimensional turbulence.
09:43:52 But in that model link, sort of extracting reduce models from simple turbulence system so that we can, for example construct a network model where we can describe synchronization etc.
09:44:07 Between flows into our business.
09:44:10 So this is the kind of direction and moving right now and sort of try to see what's happening in other fields and, hopefully, interact with other people who are interested in similar subjects as myself, so I guess I pass the to go back I'm a senior researcher
09:44:47 Hello everyone. I'm calling you from ca France.
09:44:48 from Ecole Polytechnique I guess I missed that part. So I pass the microphone to say,
09:44:53 Well actually, my main interest is in magnetized plasma, and especially questions of transport area formation.
09:45:07 That could stand many systems or patterns formation. And my interest in certain cases actually came to be hearing about it firsthand by young people in God and especially Michael McIntyre, so it's always good to to to to try to understand what goes on
09:45:24 in in different fields so that's what I want to, to pursue, and maybe get out of that.
09:45:36 If we could cook up some general principles for a busy career information or data information in the booth tweet and plasma.
09:45:47 So, I'll hand over to. Well, I see. Let's meet have enough.
09:46:02 You're, you're coming Oh,
09:46:08 ok. So Alexander Miller one of I'm based in Rome in Italy and partly based Moscow Space Research Institute, and Russia, just same Institute this article presents.
09:46:23 So I am a general theoretical physicist.
09:46:27 I work in the field of statistical theory of complex systems and my interests are especially related to the models of sofa nice criticality and several lunch transport.
09:46:36 I am quite interested now in normal models of self organized criticality which, just to be published recently a new paper with the answer us was one of participants of this workshop called eat by a model, just like as alternative to simplify our model,
09:47:00 eat bio model. e4 electrically charged particles, and we argue that this model is particularly good to understand anomalous an avalanche transcription systems like plasma systems.
09:47:23 In, just saw that soul it's an amorphous materials. So that's my in the heart of my current interest now up to that also interested in social dynamics and extremely fast they were there.
09:47:27 And that's something that is in their backyards of my scientific interest now.
09:47:32 So thank you, but I'm not sure what to whom I have to pass the word now.
09:47:38 I'm happy to go if if you need somebody.
09:47:45 Go for it all. Yeah, okay, that's great.
09:47:48 Yeah, my name is Paul burns I'm at the University of Exeter.
09:47:53 It's nice to meet you all and it's great, it's great to be a part of this.
09:47:58 So I'm a research fellow on with working with Professor Beth Wingate.
09:48:06 So, we've been interested in the layers that occur in the ocean, and we've been exploring how they can persist for long times due to nonlinear resonance.
09:48:21 So, I don't have a specific idea. I'll try to think up something but it's great just to find out what everybody else is doing. and
09:48:34 to investigate some general theories, and it's always nice to find a new collaboration, or be great.
09:48:43 Okay, I'd like to pass over to Greg Kalia.
09:49:00 Can you hear me.
09:49:05 Can anybody hear me.
09:49:07 Yes.
09:49:10 Thanks.
09:49:11 My name is Greg Coleman, I'm at Oxford I'm a postdoc in Peter each group.
09:49:17 I'm studying the atmosphere of the giant planets.
09:49:25 I'm also interested in chemistry demonstrate dynamics more generally, and my doctorate, was in magnetized plasma physics, looking at a system that spontaneously developed structures and also those analogous to
09:49:45 staircase effects in other contexts.
09:49:50 So I had a couple of ideas with things that I might look at, and one was to sort of think harder about the role of dissipation, which often plays a sort of counterintuitive role in the plasma case that I studied, increasing the dissipation, increasing
09:50:07 the collision ality in that case, increase the energy transport. Something similar happens in the geometric ocean and model of David Marshall and others were increasing the bottom of friction can sustain a greater Circumpolar Current, and again in the
09:50:25 atmosphere.
09:50:46 more specific to atmospheres where we're very familiar with having layers in the atmosphere that are driven by external differences like troposphere versus the stratosphere.
09:50:59 planetary boundaries there and the sort of thing.
09:51:03 But in some some simulation, things you can also develop and presumably in real planets also develop sort of spontaneous layering what's more like staircases.
09:51:15 And so another thing that I want you to think about and it might be a suitable topic for a group would be something along the lines of non staircase layers that may in fact be related to staircases in interesting ways.
09:51:35 I have one suggestion for practical aspects, because we're all in such different time zones. And also because we're, we're all.
09:51:53 All of us most of us are not on site and therefore we may be engaged in other things such as teaching.
09:51:53 If there was some way of sort of posting when each of us is available or interested in having times to chat and might be useful for making contact, or possibly the organizers of already.
09:52:06 We're already addressing this anyway.
09:52:12 So what I want to stay.
09:52:15 Me KTP can set up a slack.
09:52:20 Okay, which might be a good solution to that problem.
09:52:25 Sort of a program slack exchange.
09:52:32 I will since I mentioned, Peter rage I will pick on him next.
09:52:42 Okay. Thanks, Greg.
09:52:45 So, hopefully everybody can hear me.
09:52:47 My name is Peter read on an atmospheric physicist from the University of Oxford, as Greg.
09:52:54 Greg mentioned, had a long standing interest in all sorts of aspects of Geophysical Fluid Dynamics from the perspective of both experimental observational and numerical modeling.
09:53:07 organization PV stair casing I guess and, and that kind of thing, as applied to planetary atmospheres, particularly the gas giants but also elsewhere.
09:53:24 I'm also interested as far as this session is concerned is learning more about layered double defensive convection and some of the mechanisms involved there and looking for
09:53:36 analogies and, and methods and so that can be applied in different in different areas.
09:53:45 Layer WC convection may also have some slightly unexpected applications.
09:53:49 For example, in the ice giant planets Uranus and Neptune which are becoming quite topical in the planetary atmosphere world and be interested to explore this further with, with some of the experts perhaps in.
09:54:02 In such in such layered connection problems.
09:54:07 And, you know, I've already mentioned in the chat some possible suggestions for working groups and we want to kind of matrix of working groups in some ways with overlap.
09:54:18 I guess some people were looking at you know perhaps particular mechanisms for layering in general and then perhaps have some other groups that are more concerned with applications and particular systems where you where you may, you may get more than
09:54:32 one mechanism actually applied in a particular area and Planetary episodes is a particularly rich sort of area I think where this can be. This can be quite fruitful.
09:54:42 So I'm, I'm very much here to learn as well as to hopefully to contribute and interact.
09:54:49 Okay, we have a request from Chris Howland to go next.
09:54:53 Because he's gonna have to leave soon so Chris.
09:54:59 Hi, can you hear me.
09:55:01 Yes. Good.
09:55:03 Hi, I'm Chris. I've recently started a postdoc at the University of Toronto in the Netherlands, and the physics of fluids group. I'm interested in Shopify tournaments and Wi Fi connection, primarily through looking numerical methods.
09:55:22 In my PhD I assumes the density of the ocean was set by a single schema, and I'm no longer we're willing to make that assumption.
09:55:30 So I'm very interested in double diffuser convention, as I said, but also, I think we could do with maybe a working group on the interaction of ice and staircases.
09:55:45 It's been mentioned by a few people in passing, but I think that might be something to unite. A couple of interested parties.
09:55:56 And I'm willing to join in with any numerical methods discussion as well.
09:56:03 I can nominate someone to go next.
09:56:06 nominate Christina pointed.
09:56:12 Hi, my name is Christina, I'm a PhD student at the University of Leeds, and I look at how staircases. In fact, title dissipation and giant planets.
09:56:23 So I'm here really just to learn, learn more about layering and stacking structures, primarily in planetary context but I'm so interested Gemini as well.
09:56:35 That's me.
09:56:36 Thank you.
09:56:39 So, next nominate Erica that facial.
09:56:50 Hi, my name is Erica.
09:56:59 Ce myself so yeah My name is Erica McPhee Shaw I'm a professor at Western Washington University. The research is mostly I'm coastal oceanographer my research is mostly on internal waves and how they interact with Carnival margins.
09:57:10 I do a lot of work on internal waves and boundary interior exchange so emanation of Boundary Waters out into the interior and a lot of times that has to do with sediment transport but honestly I'm more interested in stratified fluids and their interaction
09:57:27 with the outer water column.
09:57:30 In terms of this conference, I am not at all an expert in staircases but I'm very interested in organized layers boundary and tear exchange sometimes organizes itself into layers in the ocean.
09:57:46 In particular, right now I'm starting to get interested in some concepts that return to PhD work I did quite a long time goes 20 years ago, where I did laboratory experiments on internal waves on sloping boundaries and low Reynolds number and variety
09:58:03 of Reynolds number.
09:58:06 Internal wave breaking and found these strange very organized layers that seem to have a role in maintaining stratification and maintain a low Richardson number in a tank, and I'm playing around with some theory right now for why that may have to do with
09:58:26 maintenance of stratification in the Bissell ocean.
09:58:31 In the persistence very relatively high mixing in energetic, very turbulent areas of internal way of mixing over continental margins.
09:58:46 And so, yeah, my goals with this.
09:58:49 This
09:58:52 group are to really learn a lot from other disciplines I see there's not that many oceanographers here.
09:58:58 So I want to hear absorb ideas from other disciplines.
09:59:03 Being a working group that may be related to those specific interests but also hear a ton of ideas so that we can pick up concepts from others. So, yeah, thanks.
09:59:23 Can you nominate somebody Erica.
09:59:26 Yeah, sorry about that. It's pretty hard right now to know who has not spoken.
09:59:34 And when you look around, I'm going to change my,
09:59:39 will she have you spoken yet.
09:59:45 Yes, you have
09:59:52 fail she.
09:59:54 Yeah, hi. I haven't spoken yet.
09:59:56 So, my name is Michaela Shay, I know that's not how it looks like it should be pronounced but I do I'm at the University of Toronto, working with Nicholas cruise.
10:00:09 And right now I'm working on using numerical methods to investigate how internal waves, interact with staircase structures, especially in the Arctic Ocean.
10:00:21 And so I'm actually using Daedalus right now.
10:00:23 So I'm very curious to see how these kinds of concepts of layering could be worked into numerical methods.
10:00:33 And I'm just going to generally interested in figuring out more about how the staircases structures form, maybe also about how they could disappear, eventually and under what conditions.
10:00:48 So I think I'll pass it off to Alan Kirsten Kirsten Kirsten Yes, thank you, person. Okay.
10:01:10 It has various applications, and I just decided to try out the initial and boundary conditions for the Hubbard in London experiment, and it grew up pretty plausible staircase.
10:01:11 I'm retired from Sandia National Laboratories in a while back I developed a reduced form of stochastic turbulence simulation that lives in one spatial dimension.
10:01:22 So I did some of the other canonical experiments shirt Cliff Newell and then I did some parametric studies of individual interfaces. And basically what I want to find out is, apart from just model demonstration or validation, whether this tool is useful
10:01:45 to people in the group here for to contribute to the studies of the current state of the art research questions. And I should mention, one of my main co workers on this Scott punch is also a participant, and he's not in the session, so we can't introduce
10:02:02 himself right now, but we both be happy to assist.
10:02:07 Anyone who finds that there's potential use of our tool, and the research.
10:02:19 There's a good suggestion on the chat that people have not yet spoken put their hands up so if you look at the participant list you'll see.
10:02:27 Oh yeah, I see when reductive McHale Medvedev.
10:02:32 Yes Hello, my name is Miguel Medvedev, and I'm a faculty at the University of Canada is also affiliated with my team.
10:02:41 So I'm a theoretical physicist, and I mostly work in law of physics and astrophysics, in relation to this program, ol I can just give you an example that I've been working on radiation and transport in in small scale turbulence kinetic scale turbulence,
10:03:01 the alarms cable or even smaller than that and that's relevant to high energy density plasma in astrophysics cluster physical sources and also in laboratory.
10:03:11 Laser plasmas.
10:03:13 I didn't do much work in layering so we're actually at my goal here is to learn more about it.
10:03:22 Right. So, shall I nominate someone.
10:03:29 Yes. Joel Rasmussen, if I'm pronouncing correctly.
10:03:39 Yes Very good, thank you.
10:03:41 Yeah Hello everybody, my name is cn July schools and I'm affiliated with a Technical University in in Denmark, Copenhagen, or do i'm actually retired now but I'm still have some, some affiliation there.
10:03:59 My work has mainly been on on turbulence and transporting magnetically confined plasmas work together will follow an hour in who spoke earlier also interesting in Neenah dynamics in general and have work will extend the middle of an overview, you just
10:04:29 heard him talk about the interest here is some basic understanding of of staircase structures, particularly in in magnetic field confined plasmas, it's impossible to to predict the size of the different steps in the staircases, and how does this size
10:04:37 depend on on on the power meters, the turbulence level or, or other issues there. And how can one predict the transport across the staircases and transport barriers that is sitting on the staircase.
10:04:57 So, this I believe is will be my main interest here. And now I will try to find.
10:05:08 Yeah, they say Yannick Saracen I think has not been speaking yet.
10:05:14 Thank you, in us. I don't know whether you can see me. Okay, just for to show my face and then I would switch it off because I read that the bandwidth otherwise will not be good enough.
10:05:28 So yeah, I'm working in the same lab as, again the quality, who spoke previously so I'm working at ca Kheraj South of France close to the site.
10:05:39 So I'm interested in self Gunny organization in magnetized plasma related to fusion.
10:05:48 So let's relate to the interplay between reef waves and landscape flows, leading either to micro transport wires and staircases and or two strong transport buyers.
10:06:01 I'm working from a numerical side from the kinetic description so large number of degree of freedoms that done to us France with models and I'm interested in covering the true scales.
10:06:16 I don't some recent work on the role of the face and on the fluctuation of the tremendous pressure on the generation of Lawsky flows. And regarding this meeting I'm extremely happy to be part of it so I'm really much interested in learning from other
10:06:34 fields. The common features and differences and layering and dynamic all properties.
10:06:40 Try to better understand the critical physics mechanisms of working by your skills and weather also there is a possibility to control the transport buyers, a clue energetic cost.
10:06:54 And then to to look at what are the the updates and the various ways to tackle the problem from the reduced model point of view.
10:07:04 That's all from our side and I can give the word to exotic out there.
10:07:10 Can we pass it on to Alex mahalo, he has to teach soon.
10:07:16 Okay, thank you. Can you hear me.
10:07:20 Yes. Yeah. Okay, great. Okay, I'm Alex McCollough from Arizona State University.
10:07:26 I'm interested in theoretical and computation of developments in sheer stratified turbulence in particular published papers on atmospheric turbulence in homogeneous turbulence in the, in the upper troposphere low stratosphere stratify jet jet stream and
10:07:47 also stay blessed ratified boundary layer for this conference I'm very interested in learning new fundamental theoretical developments that connect for examples are a connection between stratosphere and ocean right the most deeply stratified, and I'm
10:08:03 sure there are some fundamental new ideas, and we cross with cross fertilization between, you know, different fields so not fields but different groups that we can learn from each other, how to tackle these problems.
10:08:18 So I'm also interested in, in real atmospherics flows and improving the medical methods and predict predictability of stable a stratified atmospheric boundary with one boundary layers enough to know boundary layers, and I'm happy to go on, and I see many
10:08:37 old friends and I'm, I hope to make new friends.
10:08:42 Thank you.
10:08:45 I'm not sure who to.
10:08:48 Let's get Nisha Malka up there.
10:08:52 Okay, thank you, but I'm Michelle CO from University of California San Diego is a place where our chair backs is working so my, I have two interfaces, through which I can connect to this meeting this one is a high energy and astrophysics site I was interested
10:09:18 in for last 35 years of solid cosmic rays basically.
10:09:23 And because my period acceleration in shock waves and shock wave is also, in a sense of an example of a layer on the one so but but still there are also seems like shocked raise your hand the sequence of of layer so I am quite interested in in learning
10:09:41 something from other fields to apply to this particular problem and one is for instance is related to image the
10:09:55 environment, particularly in supernova shock environment but no explanations. Other interfaces more directed, I worked with this bad diamond primarily on zonal flows and transport and layering.
10:10:27 Also a little bit on atmospheric application obviously is basically very similar better play turbulence.
10:10:35 So I think I, I can stop and I've already said what I'm going to learn, and let me pass I don't know who's next on the occult my book.
10:10:59 Good morning, everybody. I'm at UC Santa Barbara, and my interest in general is in stratified fluids doubled a fugitive convection gravity currents and so on.
10:11:12 But in particular also inflows with particles, such as timidity currents or Cannock blooms settlement transport problems. And I've been, I've become interested in the problem of layer formation and staircase formation through the collaboration with Pascal,
10:11:32 where we've looked at systems with particles in order to see how the satellite velocity affects the layer formation.
10:11:42 I'm also collaborating with a few geologists in Israel and we've been looking at layer formation in the Dead Sea, where it's actually coupled to the precipitation of highlights of salt particles.
10:11:58 So there is some interesting connection there with thermodynamic coupling.
10:12:05 So I'm interested in collaborating with anybody who is who has an interest in their formation in these natural environmental or geophysical systems, and in particular, I'm interested in collaborating with.
10:12:21 Or I could provide some computational aspects of the collaboration.
10:12:28 Alright so I'm going to pass it on to shun shun.
10:12:34 Yes, thanks for that. Hi, I hope everyone can hear me, I'll just continue. My name is Chong, and I'm from the same group as Chris Holland, which is the unit from the physics of fluids group.
10:12:45 Yeah, from 20 in Netherlands. I'm currently a postdoc there.
10:12:49 So, in terms of my research interests.
10:12:53 I'm interested in natural convection in general. Double diffuse convection, and currently my focus for my postdoc is in multi-phase Dublin so I have, I do.
10:13:06 You might go competitions of air bubbles in in turbulence.
10:13:09 So the takeaway for me from from this meeting is hope to learn something new about the staircases.
10:13:21 And also, the applications in all the work can find in Geophysical Fluid Dynamics, and how I can connect to this sort of flows in terms of high, high fidelity simulations.
10:13:42 In terms of other methods that I'm also familiar with and what I can offer as well, is that I work on in responding methods and peaceful methods, in particular the candidate and dnn con equations.
10:13:51 So I'm looking forward to the current students that we will have.
10:13:56 And the next person I'll nominated control.
10:14:00 Hi. Thank you. Can you hear me.
10:14:02 Yes, I hope you can hear me. So my name is Cameron Caulfield I'm at the University of Cambridge. And as you will hear tomorrow I'm interested in stratified flows.
10:14:14 And in particular, I really interested in why staircases form how that why they are born, and why they survive and the robustness of the layer interface structure is something that I'm very curious about in the presence turbulence and its relationship
10:14:30 with transport. And I really hope to see some cross cutting pollination with other fields the plasma the PV staircase to see if there's anything generic we can say, and look forward to interacting with everybody, and I'll call on Alexis Kaminski next.
10:14:49 Hi, I'm Alexis Kaminski and I just started out as, as an assistant profit Mechanical Engineering at UC Berkeley.
10:14:57 Um, my interest broadly are in waves and instabilities and turbulence and stratified flows especially how they apply to problems of ocean mixing like column you'll hear a lot more about my interest in tomorrow's talk.
10:15:11 For this particular workshop I'm interested in building collaborations I'm interested in learning some cool fluid dynamics from across different areas, some specific questions I have relate to some observations we have from the ocean where we see sharp
10:15:24 interfaces and Long live layered structures, we don't really understand in this particular data set, why we get them and so I'm hoping to sort of learn something that points us in the right direction to be able to explain what we're actually seeing in
10:15:37 real geophysical flows.
10:15:41 And I will hand it over to Leo Middleton.
10:15:48 Yeah.
10:15:50 I'm Leo, I'm a PhD student at the University of Cambridge working with john Taylor, and also the British politics survey.
10:15:56 And so, my work is mostly about double diffusion in the ice shelf, ocean boundary layer and but also kind of more generally, open ocean double the views of mixing and layer formation.
10:16:08 And I'm particularly interested in you know synthesizing. Some of the ideas from stratified turbulent layer formation and double diffuse of layer formation and what the crossovers between those two sort of sets of ideas are.
10:16:20 And yeah, I'm looking forward to hearing, lots of different ideas about learning from different people in this meeting.
10:16:28 So then I'll pass over to serve on the right.
10:16:33 Right, yeah. you said that right.
10:16:37 So first I want to thank the organizers because for having organized a workshop in the days before coven stressful enough, so I can't imagine the not the amount of stress they've gone through, and thank you very much.
10:16:49 I'm so I'm interested, I'm a faculty at the Quran Institute at NYU, and I'm interested in most in the magnetic confinement fusion.
10:16:58 And they're the biggest worry from a theoretical point of view inside the plasma is transport and how to predict it.
10:17:05 And it's not enough to predicted for unknown parameter usually you don't know the the background profiles.
10:17:12 So you need to do, uncertainty quantification.
10:17:15 And so I thought, can we do even uncertainty quantification and a turbulent system. When you have bifurcation, and so no flows appearing as they do in, and Megan dies confinement fusion.
10:17:30 And so I've been working on that for last couple years and I started with simple models. How's it going, how's it gonna work attorney.
10:17:36 And that's how I came to be interested in layers zonal flows staircases and so on.
10:17:42 And if we can predict, just like Pat diamond said if we can predict for those simple system, quote unquote simple systems, there's no hope for fusion prediction in general so that's the type of group that I'd love to, to hear about is we can think about
10:17:59 reduce modeling and uncertainty quantification.
10:18:02 So this type of system that we're interested in here.
10:18:05 And the last thing I'll say is, I've tried multi fidelity Monte Carlo for that with some success and methods that Nami developed, and I'd be happy to talk about that.
10:18:16 Thank you.
10:18:17 So I'll pass on to
10:18:22 change and Chen from UCSD.
10:18:30 Hi everyone, I'm UCSD PhD student work with Pat diamond. And my research interest is Mht turbulence in presence of Stoke has taken my note to field. So previously.
10:18:43 Previously we publish a paper about the standard target client, and now we are interested in the fusion plasma and that is related to token back. And I wish to learn, have a better understanding of the Larry.
10:18:59 And also I'm interested in the self organized structure.
10:19:04 And, and also the PV staircases and how he will interact with the material, transport, so I'm looking forward to work with everyone in this workshop. Thank you.
10:19:25 I want to pass on to Siberia Garbutt.
10:19:39 Can you hear me.
10:19:41 Yes, yes.
10:19:44 Center, work on that one.
10:19:48 I'm sorry ago base on plasma physicist from see a kid ourselves of France.
10:19:55 And essentially working on the turbulence is in trouble and transport in fact in many times the plasma is essentially for fusion applications fusion energy applications.
10:20:08 And in particular, interested in the interaction between Shelly associate layers and let's say structures, responsible for not scale transport across the magnetic field, and therefore losses of confinement for reasons which obviously is for fusion applications.
10:20:27 Here, and essentially as many of you here are interested in knowing.
10:20:32 To learn more about the treatment of earlier in as a communities to improve, of course on understanding of layering in fusion plasmas.
10:20:43 And I have some special interest in producing reduced mother's transport mothers essentially transport barriers, which were mentioned several times. And of course, obviously Dublin's taverns can control.
10:21:01 And I think that's it's.
10:21:05 So yes, I would move to I would see who is left in the yellow hands, I see a lower cope, copy, I don't know, to say it.
10:21:17 Yeah, hi. So, I'm Laura cope, and I'm going to keep my video turned off today because my internet has been unstable and intermittent so I do hope that you can hear me and my PhD was in Geophysical Fluid Dynamics at the University of Cambridge, wherever
10:21:35 it was looking at zonal flow variability in be the plane turbulence.
10:21:40 And I've also looked at layering phenomena in stratified turbulence in astrophysical fluid dynamics. And I guess that my primary role in attending this meeting is to expand my horizons and learn from other fields, And I hope that I'll have the opportunity
10:21:58 to virtually meet many of you over the next few weeks.
10:22:03 So, I'm going to pass over to Greg cine.
10:22:15 Can you hear me.
10:22:17 Okay, thank you. Thanks, Laura. Um, so I'm a fluid dynamics sis from the University of New Hampshire. And I'm actually interested in layering and flows that lack of strong linear instability so maybe aren't stratified don't have rotation Coriolis effect
10:22:34 or magnet, magnetic effects.
10:22:37 And I think I'll be talking about that in some weeks.
10:22:40 In addition, and having said that I'm interested in all things convection and recent interest is in strongly stratified turbulent flows and layering in those flows.
10:22:52 I've heard a few people mentioned including Edgar and Steve Tobias and a few others interest in reduced order model development and certainly I share that interest especially sort of structure based PDP models to exploit scale disparities that arise in
10:23:07 in these layered systems that have an extreme parameter regimes. So maybe there could be a working group on a try and see how how these approaches can be applied across a range of systems.
10:23:22 Yeah. So I think that's it. And I will pick Samuel boring.
10:23:30 Okay, can you hear me.
10:23:40 I'm defending my pity like
10:23:42 Okay, so I'm assuming burry I'm an assistant professor at current, the current Institute in New York right now.
10:23:47 half a year now.
10:23:47 And I used to work on internal ways and, in, in the linear and nominal regime in Lena and nonlinear certifications. And that's how I became interested in layering and loneliness ratification so currently I'm working with Bruce here on staircase certifications
10:24:05 and internet propagation through these certifications, and also working on rural like Institute measurements from the Arctic.
10:24:17 And then the whole disease processes that are forming.
10:24:25 And so I think for for this workshop I really hope to to build new collaborations and to learn more about layering processes, and what else did analytically, and most, mostly, I think, point of view.
10:24:44 So I will sit through this and we'll.
10:24:53 Hi.
10:25:03 Hello everyone. Can you hear me.
10:25:06 Yes, I'm Muslim Do you have a PhD students at the CA in France, and I'm sitting conviction and do experiments on redemptive conviction. and for the buzzer.
10:25:11 Can you hear me. Yeah.
10:25:17 I've been doing experiment on rotating relative conviction to study some extreme regimes. And I don't know much about layering and so that's why I'm mostly here to learn new stuff.
10:25:33 So,
10:25:33 and I, and the next would be bold prisoner.
10:25:43 Hi, I'm Paul prisoner, I'm a PhD student at Leeds with David choose.
10:25:49 And I'm, I'm looking at sort of a developing a reduced model for double diffuse connection and trying to see some layering behavior in that.
10:26:02 And sort of the long term, is to be able to compare double diffusion with other systems and see if we can find a more overarching theory behind multiple layering systems, I mean just double diffusion.
10:26:20 And suppose I'm here just to sort of get a better background into the various fields and ways the scars.
10:26:32 I think the last person I can say in the last is Ramona party Banda.
10:26:38 Can you.
10:26:44 Yes, we can't thank you enough vitamin D students from 1800s, India.
10:26:53 I'm currently working on Craddick recent interactions in stride friendship close this book he said Don't be supervised by a doctor and the doctor and then.
10:27:06 I mean, in this program needs to learn about density status and that will decrease the contraction. Thank you.
10:27:16 And I think the next is made man.
10:27:24 Hello everybody.
10:27:27 I am an applied mathematician of lumen recognition from the University of British Columbia.
10:27:33 I worked on, reduce model for the last forming and forced stratified fluids is quite a while ago. And I guess my main goal at the moment for this workshop is to really immerse myself in this field.
10:27:49 And to find out what everyone's currently doing about layering and see what I can contribute. Thank you.
10:27:57 I'm not sure if anyone's left.
10:28:01 There are some people who have arrived in the last few minutes, and I would ask those people you've not yet smoking, go down to reactions and click on raise hand.
10:28:13 And then people can call on you to introduce yourself. In particular, Rick Sammon has joined us I don't think he's smoking yet. Can you introduce yourself right.
10:28:24 Yes. Can you hear me.
10:28:25 Yes, I can. Okay, well I'm Richard Allen I'm from Scripps Institution of Oceanography I love physics oceanographer just interested in geopolitical food dynamics, especially those that use the grungy and methods of one kind or another and at the moment
10:28:44 I'm interested in solutions of the equation atmosphere.
10:28:49 And I'm just interested in anything I can learn and happy to be here I'm sorry I'm late on a little computer trouble. Thank you.
10:29:00 All right, anyone else who hasn't spoken.
10:29:05 Did we hear from difficulty I
10:29:13 think you might be gone, actually.
10:29:18 This is a rush.
10:29:20 Sorry I haven't spoken yet.
10:29:26 Go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah, sure. So this is Russia shoulder.
10:29:32 I'm a staff scientists that the Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory and stationed at the D 3d token my facility and have previously worked on for my postdoctoral work with Pat on models for staircase formation.
10:29:51 And, you know, magnetic confinement plasma devices, but my current focus is on talking max mostly and especially on the pedestal in age mode.
10:30:08 Plasma, and the recent findings of advanced local max scenarios such as white pedestal pistol qH mode, and our MPM suppress plasmas have shown the formation of staircase structures and so that's the focus of my recent work, and hopefully I'll get to talk
10:30:33 to this a little bit with you guys and learn from us. Thank you.
10:30:47 anyone else who hasn't spoken.
10:30:55 Alright.
10:30:59 So I think that's it. Everybody, unless there are further questions or more general comments. We start in earnest tomorrow morning at nine Pacific Standard Time.
10:31:15 Thursday's gathering will be eight pacific standard time because it involves some colleagues from Asia for whom you know the difference between eight and nine is is significant, given the time zone situation.
10:31:34 So as anything else.
10:31:39 All right.
10:31:42 Sorry part. Um, I've heard a few people talk about the fact that they'll give a talk in a few weeks or things like that. How do we know that it's coming.
10:31:53 In other words, we, we were trying to nail, what we have a list.
10:31:57 At least for the next phase of talks well I guess it's nearly the next phase, and it's a question of making sure you know we people agreed in principle, but we want to make sure that X can do it on day, Amy can do it on day B etc And once that's nailed
10:32:19 down you'll get a list.
10:32:21 All right.
10:32:22 Fantastic. Thank you.